In Chapter 38, for the first time, Pip and the reader see some of Estella's feelings. Estella and Miss Havisham argue at Satis House, and Estella .

In chapter 5, ekwefi is called "a woman who had suffered a great deal and in chapter 6, when discussing ezinma with chielo, she states, '"i pray she stays." speculate what may have been an event that caused suffering in ekwefi's past.